Villains Land at Magic Kingdom

[LPCaptainDeath]

Magic Mirror portals to the Villainous Realm. Done.

Give me that dope fog-mist-waterfall effect that used to exist on Pirates (for DJ & BB) with a projection of the Mirror's face bidding us welcome every 5-10 minutes and i am SOLD.

 

[belloq87]

My point was more along the lines of questioning what somebody like Gaston has to offer a group full of magic users. He's just a guy! So for the rides, I think whatever Villain lineups are featured need to be justifiable by some kind of internal story logic, even if very loose.

The rest of land? Make it a free-for-all, sure.

 

[PerceptiveCoot]

My point was more along the lines of questioning what somebody like Gaston has to offer a group full of magic users.

Interior decorating. Arm candy.

 

[UniversalRBLX]

For the attraction, it's easy to see how it'll be a "best of" experience with different scenes tied to each villain. Maybe Maleficent has sent out a recruiting call to gather up all the Villains to take over the realm of fantasyland... only to then battle each other for labeling themselves as the "top" villain?

The land should be more akin to the "traditional" mashed up styles of Fantasyland and Adventureland. I think Adventureland is a perfect model of smaller "sub lands" within a general theme (Colonial, Polynesian, Arabian, Spanish, etc.). Avoids the SWGE problem entirely.

The coaster could be an abandoned transport vehicle that has been turned into a tour of the caverns/hidden pathways the villains use to train/hide.

 

[Jake S]

So for the rides, I think whatever Villain lineups are featured need to be justifiable by some kind of internal story logic, even if very loose.

I know we disagree on this, but I'd much prefer abandoning that logic than making Chernabog the big bad of this ride. He's (I'm sorry) a very boring character.

 

[PerceptiveCoot]

The coaster could be an abandoned transport vehicle that has been turned into a tour of the caverns/hidden pathways the villains use to train/hide.

Please no more training. I want the villains to actually want to murder me.

 

[belloq87]

I know we disagree on this, but I'd much prefer abandoning that logic than making Chernabog the big bad of this ride. He's (I'm sorry) a very boring character.

I mean, he's not really a character at all. He's iconography. But he looks incredible, and would be an opportunity for a Kongfrontation-sized animatronic.

"Big bad" only in the most literal sense of (hopefully) being a gigantic figure. But certainly not whoever has schemed to pull all the villains to the land.

You can't honestly tell me you'd be disappointed if a 40-foot (or whatever) devil monster with bat wings appeared in here!

 

[fryoj]

They kinda have an explanation they have already used in Descendants if they wanted to use it here. The villains were all banished to the land. Ignore the kids and make it so the villains are fed up and ready to break out.

 

[Rhian]

If there’s some element of alternative universe shenanigans it’d be cool if some villains had won their fights with the hero and we got a peek of what that looks like. This land has potential to be something really cool if they go all-out on it.

My point was more along the lines of questioning what somebody like Gaston has to offer a group full of magic users. He's just a guy! So for the rides, I think whatever Villain lineups are featured need to be justifiable by some kind of internal story logic, even if very loose.

Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Iron Man do pretty well amongst the other supernatural characters. Maybe someone else will give him some kind of magic enhancement if he drinks a potion?

 

[LPCaptainDeath]

My point was more along the lines of questioning what somebody like Gaston has to offer a group full of magic users. He's just a guy! So for the rides, I think whatever Villain lineups are featured need to be justifiable by some kind of internal story logic, even if very loose.

The rest of land? Make it a free-for-all, sure.

I mean, he's not really a character at all. He's iconography. But he looks incredible, and would be an opportunity for a Kongfrontation-sized animatronic.

"Big bad" only in the most literal sense of (hopefully) being a gigantic figure. But certainly not whoever has schemed to pull all the villains to the land.

You can't honestly tell me you'd be disappointed if a 40-foot (or whatever) devil monster with bat wings appeared in here!

The villain club doesn't discriminate from magic and non-magic or human and non-human, my guy. Disney got the catalog like we're breaking into Arkham Asylum and i am HAPPY to see them FLEX it.

Fantasmic is my favorite show at Disney and that features Claude Frollo, Captain Hook, Cruella De Vil, and Govenor Ratcliffe - All just normal peeps by this logic. And then we got Kaa, Monstro, and Scar - which are literally just aggro animals. I'm not claiming that they're cool or that there isn't a hierarchy of power being ignored - I'm just saying that I don't wanna draw those lines because i don't think Disney will. I think we're going to see a lot of them and i think they're going to think of a good way to use them.

You know the only good scene from Wreck It Ralph 2 where all the princesses get together and it finds a good way to showcase all of them individually despite their differences and it works?
Yeah, that - but VILLAINS for the ENTIRE RIDE.

And i do agree, i think the characters that DON'T WORK for the smaller more intimate dark-ride will ABSOLUTELY work and SHOULD be utilized for the rollercoaster. I'm imagining Expedition Everest but every time we turn a corner there's a new BIG, SCARY looking monster coming at us. Get on board, this is the hype train. Chernabog better be there; He's my #1 aura-farming villain.

 

[belloq87]

Chernabog better be there

On this, the most important matter, we agree.

I would just a like a little storytelling cohesion on the attractions.