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The Icons and Lore Thread

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Yeah, from the trademark I’ve read on Reddit. She can’t be used or explicitly mentioned in theme parks and haunt venues. Almost everywhere else is allowed.
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Right, but the important distinction here is that Bloody Mary is not a public domain character in the context of Halloween Horror Nights. For all intents and purposes, she is an IP, even if Universal basically adapted the legend into something completely divorced from what the owner created.
 
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Universal can use Mary Agana, the pre-Bloody, viscously cruel doctor character they developed as a backstory for “their” Bloody Mary, but Dr. Agana is pointless without the mirror-focused “Bloody Mary” alter-ego.

So they don’t.
 
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Dr. Agana was used in PsychoScareapy at 20, particularly the shock therapy room. But she was just a one-and-done throwaway at that time.
 
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Dr. Agana was used in PsychoScareapy at 20, particularly the shock therapy room. But she was just a one-and-done throwaway at that time.
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Actually, @Legacy himself confirmed way back on the old horrornightnightmares forum that according to Aiello, it was just a random doctor. So Mary Agana never made a appearance after 2008.
 
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Actually, @Legacy himself confirmed way back on the old horrornightnightmares forum that according to Aiello, it was just a random doctor. So Mary Agana never made a appearance after 2008.
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I also think they deliberately changed the wig/appearance of the performer in the scene after fans started declaring it the return of Mary Agana online.

The only two reappearances I can think of are 1) her costume and a Bloody Mary-like mannequin (with white eyes and scarred face) in a museum setting - can’t remember the specifics, but it was there and labeled as Dr. Mary Agana, and 2) the cracking mirror gag in Icons, which was a legally permissible allusion to the character.
 
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Actually, @Legacy himself confirmed way back on the old horrornightnightmares forum that according to Aiello, it was just a random doctor. So Mary Agana never made a appearance after 2008.
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I really wish those forums got archived better. A lot of contemporaneous lore conversations back then that new fans could use today…
 
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