Sinners (USH)

[FBarnhill]

Get Out would be messier as a haunt experience because of the POV issue. So many of the movie's "scares" rely on the specific context that they're happening to a Black American. The events of the movie are in some ways metaphorical, but otherwise closely mirror the micro(&macro)-aggressions that community faces in this country. It would be weird to simulate that for a mass, mixed audience.

I do think blackness is central to Us, but it has broader iconography (scissors and red jumpsuits) and themes (being chased by a doppelganger), that were better suited for HHN.

Yyyyyeah, you put it better than I could.

Yeah, I think this is it. Us is much better suited to the event because of its iconography, less so because of its politics. Also worth considering that movies like Texas Chainsaw are also explicitly political.

Tobe Hooper was a vegetarian and made the movie to scare people into stop eating meat. There's a reason the slaughterhouse is very prominent in it. But horror has always been the most political of the genres. That's why I despise the term "elevated horror". They've always been elevated.

This will be a great house!! I loved this movie. Can't wait.

Other way around, imo. Us is basically about the "shadow self" and the relationship we have with our dark impulses. (Read a lot of Jung in college lol) I agree there is a political angle to it, but I wouldn't call it explicit in the same way as Get Out, which has a pretty clear theme about the treatment of black people, but idk the rules of this forum so prolly shouldn't get too deep there lol

I remember Peele stating that Us is about the privileges we have over those beneath us. The tethered could be an allegory for immigrants who have to put up with the hard work to make our own lives easier, yet we refuse to see ourselves in them.

This isn’t accurate.

Thanks for the correction. I could've sworn that was true but I saw that on some random tweet 8 years ago, so go figure.

 

[Ball Don't Lie]

the tethered literally say, “we’re americans” haha.

Right, I agree there is a political angle lol, but you can read that line multiple ways, and imho it's just twisted way of saying "we're you," not a direct comment on America or Americans (the good guys in that movie are Americans, too). Although you can read it that way, too. The tethered are symbolic, they can stand for many things, again imho. But stuff like "I would have voted for Obama for a third term" is commentary on a pretty specific subject that, again, feels waaaaaay off topic for a theme park board haha, but suffice to say imho that Get Out is much more direct about the experience of racism than Us. Can you tell I was a cinema studies minor lmao

 

[FBarnhill]

The fact we're here debating what Us was really about while many of us know what Get Out was conveying kinda proves which one was the more subtle one. Lol

But aside from that, yes, one film is specifically about one community's experience in the country, and trivializing that with a haunted house sounds icky. At least with TCM, it's easier to ignore its politics as even that movie can be interpreted in many ways.

Which brings it back to Sinners. It's a movie that's both overt and allegorical to the black experience, back then but also now. The vampires are allegorical to the liberal white Americans who claim they want to help black people but ultimately want to use their talents and bodies to prop themselves up. That's explicitly shown in the "I Lied to You" and the "Rocky Road to Dublin" scenes. One is a celebration of one's culture while the other has one person forcing their own culture onto others.

 

[Lc.]

It's the vampire house, that's as basic as it's going to get as to why they are doing a Sinners house, the rest of the commentary the film does will still be there, but it being able to jump off as a vampire house is enough like how Us or TCM had can be boiled down to the "slasher house/s" or even "gore house" for TCM

Anyway, it's in UBE, I'm admittedly bummed we mostlikely aren't get a juke joint in the vain of a typical facade were we are able to stand and wait see all the action via lighitng and audio cues to convery the chaos going on inside the juke joint. I'm sure they will do something similar inside but it won't be the same if it were in say H-Lot North... doesn't mean I'm not excited to see it still!