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Wizarding World of Harry Potter - Ministry of Magic - General Discussion Thread

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I don't have any connections with the Ministry team, but I have heard about some very roughs days land-wide for Potter in the past week. Cirque, Wand Magic, Ministry having major downtime or operational issues around and after peak season, effectively shuttering the land outside of dining and walk-around entertainment. Very similar to what happened around SNW when Yoshi went down for maintenance.

Hoping that this new Broom ride is successful in attracting guests, offering sufficient capacity, and limiting downtimes. This land and SNW need all three desperately.
 
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DOOMBOT said:
I don't have any connections with the Ministry team, but I have heard about some very roughs days land-wide for Potter in the past week. Cirque, Wand Magic, Ministry having major downtime or operational issues around and after peak season, effectively shuttering the land outside of dining and walk-around entertainment. Very similar to what happened around SNW when Yoshi went down for maintenance.

Hoping that this new Broom ride is successful in attracting guests, offering sufficient capacity, and limiting downtimes. This land and SNW need all three desperately.
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But probably no short-term solution, huh. Will this just be the MO for Epic for the next 2+ years?
 
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DOOMBOT said:
I don't have any connections with the Ministry team, but I have heard about some very roughs days land-wide for Potter in the past week. Cirque, Wand Magic, Ministry having major downtime or operational issues around and after peak season, effectively shuttering the land outside of dining and walk-around entertainment. Very similar to what happened around SNW when Yoshi went down for maintenance.

Hoping that this new Broom ride is successful in attracting guests, offering sufficient capacity, and limiting downtimes. This land and SNW need all three desperately.
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My visit the show closed for the final performance, but damn it's been more? Also when Ministry does run it's likely running 1/2 to 3/4 capacity.

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But probably no short-term solution, huh. Will this just be the MO for Epic for the next 2+ years?
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2 years is a long time, the park hasn't been open for 8 months yet.
 
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My visit the show closed for the final performance, but damn it's been more? Also when Ministry does run it's likely running 1/2 to 3/4 capacity.



2 years is a long time, the park hasn't been open for 8 months yet.
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The two days we were at Epic, the show was up and down numerous times. Looked like it missed about half the shows.
Same with the Dragons show. It's tough when even the shows are down so much. You'd think Dragons would be better
since it's a clone from Beijing. That's what gets me about all the Epic downtime. The clones are as bad as the new attractions.
 
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The actual Ministry ride (ignoring the draw dropping queue) is a huge disappointment and is absolutely not worth the innumerable times we left the line because of breakdowns.

I put this ride below Gringotts. Ministry is definitely not in my top 3 rides at epic.
 
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jwbitterman said:
draw dropping queue
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Hell Yeah Deal With It GIF
 
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Parkscope Joe said:
My visit the show closed for the final performance, but damn it's been more? Also when Ministry does run it's likely running 1/2 to 3/4 capacity.
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Mad Dog said:
The two days we were at Epic, the show was up and down numerous times. Looked like it missed about half the shows.
Same with the Dragons show. It's tough when even the shows are down so much. You'd think Dragons would be better
since it's a clone from Beijing. That's what gets me about all the Epic downtime. The clones are as bad as the new attractions.
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The shows have lots and lots of moving parts and potential points of failure. Puppets, performers, costume changes, moving set pieces, rigging and lifts, screen tech integration, even the curtain can fault.

It's a new park and kinks are still being worked out. Show ops is nowhere near where internal projections were. There were some incredibly bold projections for how many shows Ministry could pull off in a day, utilizing the preshow and show space simultaneously. The current show runs at about 1/4th of that initial hope.

IMO given the show and stage they built, that was a ridiculous estimate to begin with and entirely unrealistic; but I think there was a lot of that kind of overestimating park-wide, which is why they're in this capacity rut in the first place.
 
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DOOMBOT said:
The shows have lots and lots of moving parts and potential points of failure. Puppets, performers, costume changes, moving set pieces, rigging and lifts, screen tech integration, even the curtain can fault.

It's a new park and kinks are still being worked out. Show ops is nowhere near where internal projections were. There were some incredibly bold projections for how many shows Ministry could pull off in a day, utilizing the preshow and show space simultaneously. The current show runs at about 1/4th of that initial hope.

IMO given the show and stage they built, that was a ridiculous estimate to begin with and entirely unrealistic; but I think there was a lot of that kind of overestimating park-wide, which is why they're in this capacity rut in the first place.
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I believe the director of the production lets slip the number of performances they originally intended to happen - something like 30 daily - in the first episode of the Epic Ride documentary. Obviously, they’re lucky to do 8-10.

My guess is this was meant to run continuously, hence the traditional queue setup.
 
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I believe the director of the production lets slip the number of performances they originally intended to happen - something like 30 daily - in the first episode of the Epic Ride documentary. Obviously, they’re lucky to do 8-10.

My guess is this was meant to run continuously, hence the traditional queue setup.
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8 to 10 scheduled....but 2 to 5 that get skipped....so way way under projections....and Dragons was down so often we were only
able to catch one show over the two days. The one show we did catch, the dragon broke down on stage for the last 5 minutes
of the show. As we were leaving, about 20 people in suits rushed onto the stage, not just a couple. That amazed me more than
the show. All of this downtime, shows and attractions, have to be multiples beyond what was expected. Even the clones are having issues.
Something has gone wrong behind the scenes big time.
 
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Mad Dog said:
8 to 10 scheduled....but 2 to 5 that get skipped....so way way under projections....and Dragons was down so often we were only
able to catch one show over the two days. The one show we did catch, the dragon broke down on stage for the last 5 minutes
of the show. As we were leaving, about 20 people in suits rushed onto the stage, not just a couple. That amazed me more than
the show. All of this downtime, shows and attractions, have to be multiples beyond what was expected. Even the clones are having issues.
Something has gone wrong behind the scenes big time.
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Different work ethic in USA parks compared to Asian ones. You can see that in the difference between USJ Nintendo and Epic.
 
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Different work ethic in USA parks compared to Asian ones. You can see that in the difference between USJ Nintendo and Epic.
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Good point....Might be something to that....Plus, perhaps the engineers and tech personnel at Epic
are just not good enough at what they do to handle this mess.
 
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