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Universal Kids Resort - Frisco, Texas

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OrlandoGuy

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rabbitsmoon said:
We’ve had the families vs childless adults conversation many times in the theme park community, on this board and elsewhere, and I think it’s always going to be emotionally loaded territory.

I sense, from all my friends and family with kids, that they feel quite unsupported by society at large, which leads to frustration and isolation. You may have seen cranks on social media say only families should be given fast passes at parks, or that childless adults should be banned altogether. It sounds harsh, but I think parents are just upset about how complicated and expensive theme park trips have become. They’re trying to figure out how they can provide the same types of wonderful experiences for their kids their parents gave them. So I can fully understand why this group would be defensive of a place that finally seems designed to cater to their young family.

On the other hand, adults who love theme parks are used to dismissal and derision from the world at large, and places like this board are refuges where we can feel validation and form community. I think this group is understandably sensitive to being told it’s inappropriate for them to express their interest in or opinion on a theme park. You also never know why a person is childless, and I think there’s a tendency to assume those folks live frivolous, easy lives compared to beleaguered parents, which can be wrong/hurtful.

I’m not saying anyone here expressed any of these sentiments directly. But all of our fears/anxieties about these bigger things are influencing the discourse. Ultimately, I think the main problem is a capitalist system keeping us all isolated and making our economic conditions increasingly perilous.

If only there was a nice, shaded place we could all go to cool down…
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Yep. My Twitter algorithm is mainly sports, but when something big happens I get roped into theme park twitter. By far, theme park twitter is 10x more hateful and personal, which is crazy given how nuts sports fandom is. But this park has really brought in an extra layer of ugly and the “well you don’t have kids so you don’t matter” element is an extra weapon that you can tell a lot of die hards are very satisfied with themselves for uncovering lol.
 
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AustinT said:
I didn't think it made any sense but I kept seeing people post snippets of things from local government officials and other documents. So people must have been repeating this from somewhere

Edit- after a quick search I've found a post from the Frisco mayor Here where he mentions "no dark rides". Maybe that's one of the reasons this thing keeps getting brought up all over. No idea.
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Having read the Mayor's comments, I think it comes down to perspective. To a Texan who maybe visits theme parks once a decade, "dark ride" means Space Mountain or Guardians or Mummy. To the Internet Theme Park Community, dark ride means the simple Fantasyland rides in DLR. I think the Mayor meant the former--code to his voters for "no thrilling E-ticket rides that will attract crowds of teens!"--but it's incorrectly being applied to the latter. (Because Sally apparently had a dark ride ready to go, but Universal cut it.)

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I think that's the thing. There is a lot of good at Kids, but the park's biggest flaw is going to be the first thing people notice, so it ends up dominating the convo.
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And yet they still chose to go ahead with the preview with at least some attendees with national reach. I'll be honest, a lot of this looks fine, fun even--Puss' area, the Spongebob splashpad--but the one image burned in my mind is the Minions raft ride concept art v. the final product. And that ride has become the poster child for the park, launching 1,000 memes.

rabbitsmoon said:
We’ve had the families vs childless adults conversation many times in the theme park community, on this board and elsewhere, and I think it’s always going to be emotionally loaded territory.
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Even more so because a huge swath of Universal's millennial fanbase are Disney Adults who feel (with much justification) that WDW forced them out to focus on young kids. Even though a small park in another state is not the same thing, it brings back that tension.
 
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rabbitsmoon said:
We’ve had the families vs childless adults conversation many times in the theme park community, on this board and elsewhere, and I think it’s always going to be emotionally loaded territory.

I sense, from all my friends and family with kids, that they feel quite unsupported by society at large, which leads to frustration and isolation. You may have seen cranks on social media say only families should be given fast passes at parks, or that childless adults should be banned altogether. It sounds harsh, but I think parents are just upset about how complicated and expensive theme park trips have become. They’re trying to figure out how they can provide the same types of wonderful experiences for their kids their parents gave them. So I can fully understand why this group would be defensive of a place that finally seems designed to cater to their young family.

On the other hand, adults who love theme parks are used to dismissal and derision from the world at large, and places like this board are refuges where we can feel validation and form community. I think this group is understandably sensitive to being told it’s inappropriate for them to express their interest in or opinion on a theme park. You also never know why a person is childless, and I think there’s a tendency to assume those folks live frivolous, easy lives compared to beleaguered parents, which can be wrong/hurtful.

I’m not saying anyone here expressed any of these sentiments directly. But all of our fears/anxieties about these bigger things are influencing the discourse. Ultimately, I think the main problem is a capitalist system keeping us all isolated and making our economic conditions increasingly perilous.

If only there was a nice, shaded place we could all go to cool down…
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Just to add to the discourse:

I also think there’s a lot of non-demo speaking for the demo, which is causing more of the friction.

Regardless of someone’s position in their family set up, only one side understands both, so they can speak from both sides. The non-demo can’t. This isn’t mean to disparage them. Believe me, I understand the difficulty of someone who is trying to grow a family - so I will never knock that.
 
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SeventyOne said:
And yet they still chose to go ahead with the preview with at least some attendees with national reach. I'll be honest, a lot of this looks fine, fun even--Puss' area, the Spongebob splashpad--but the one image burned in my mind is the Minions raft ride concept art v. the final product. And that ride has become the poster child for the park, launching 1,000 memes.
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This is part of the issue too I think. If they want to cater only to the locals and open up a bare bones, low budget park, that's fine. But don't lump those announcements/updates in with events or other things where two FL/CA resorts are the focus, don't invite national media to the opening, and don't invite vloggers with large followings known for covering the main resorts and other theme parks around the world. There's some mixed messaging in there. You can't use the same press and platforms that cover theme parks worldwide and then use the "well it's not for you anyway" defense when their fans scrutinize it.
 
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AustinT said:
There's some mixed messaging in there. You can't use the same press and platforms that cover theme parks worldwide and then use the "well it's not for you anyway" defense when their fans scrutinize it.
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I 100% agree with this. It was a very odd choice by their PR folks to invite out the Orlando influencers who primarily have national audiences versus focusing only on locals. The national media treatment comes with different expectations.

I will say, my local mom groups I guess haven’t seen any of that coverage, and weren’t aware UKR was getting dragged. Lots of moms still planning to take their families.
 
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Amity6 said:
Blessed that my universal kids resort was USF in the 90s
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THIS.
 
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Amity6 said:
Blessed that my universal kids resort was USF in the 90s
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rhino4evr said:
THIS.
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Not everyone has the luxury of having a major theme park in their city.

The area I'm from pretty much has nothing that is theme park adjacent. A Universal Kids Resort would be very welcomed there.
 
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mccgavin said:
Not everyone has the luxury of having a major theme park in their city.

The area I'm from pretty much has nothing that is theme park adjacent. A Universal Kids Resort would be very welcomed there.
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From the looks of it Frisco still doesn’t have one ;)


Sorry, I had to lol
 
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Mike S said:
From the looks of it Frisco still doesn’t have one ;)
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Yeah, I wasn't suggesting it was. I just meant if you don't live nearby a major theme park, a smaller regional offering is going to have a lot more meaning and weight to the local population.
 
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This is why I was secretly against this park from the very beginning.

Universal already had too much on their plates after opening Epic and then announcing a whole new theme park in the UK.

There was literally no budget for this park and it shows big time.
 
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mccgavin said:
Yeah, I wasn't suggesting it was. I just meant if you don't live nearby a major theme park, a smaller regional offering is going to have a lot more meaning and weight to the local population.
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Weren't locals just meant experiencing it as a kid the age that this parks going for.
 
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OrlLover said:
This is why I was secretly against this park from the very beginning.

Universal already had too much on their plates after opening Epic and then announcing a whole new theme park in the UK.

There was literally no budget for this park and it shows big time.
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If it had a Disneyland Fantasyland style dark ride in each land and the Minion raft ride didn’t look so bare it wouldn’t actually be bad as a kid park at all.
 
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Mike S said:
If it had a Disneyland Fantasyland style dark ride in each land
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Technically, it does have one. It's just outside and has minimal props and foliage.
 
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Mike S said:
If it had a Disneyland Fantasyland style dark ride in each land and the Minion raft ride didn’t look so bare it wouldn’t actually be bad as a kid park at all.
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Yes if the budget was $300-$400 million more it would be a nicer place. It would also be a vastly different concept.
 
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Brian G. said:
Technically, it does have one. It's just outside and has minimal props and foliage.
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No indoor rides in Texas isn’t a good idea.
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Yes if the budget was $300-$400 million more it would be a nicer place. It would also be a vastly different concept.
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If that’s how much it would cost to build the simplest kind of indoor ride there is the industry is in trouble. You do know the type of ride I’m talking about doesn’t have any real animatronics right? You are right that it would be a vastly different concept. It would be a better one that actually offers escape from the heat.
 
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I don’t think the park needs indoor rides for the concept to work. I think the rides and spaces in the park now should just be quite a bit nicer. It’s simplicity isn’t a problem to me, just the execution of that simplicity.
 
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mccgavin said:
Not everyone has the luxury of having a major theme park in their city.

The area I'm from pretty much has nothing that is theme park adjacent. A Universal Kids Resort would be very welcomed there.
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I realize I’m spoiled living in Florida the “home” of theme parks…. But that still doesn’t excuse terrible design. Did you see the water treatment river ride ?

There are plenty of “regional” and “local” theme parks that could compete on theme for this concrete IP carnival.
 
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Jake S said:
I don’t think the park needs indoor rides for the concept to work. I think the rides and spaces in the park now should just be quite a bit nicer. It’s simplicity isn’t a problem to me, just the execution of that simplicity.
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All I’m saying is one indoor ride for each land except maybe Minions because it has the water ride. The rest would be like you say, what’s already there but nicer.
 
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AvoidTIMtation said:
LOL oh come on now
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I said what I said. There are plenty of crappy family attractions I avoid on a regular. If the kids summer camp wants to take them that’s fine.

I did enjoy Legoland by the way
 
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