Universal Great Britain - Speculation & Rumors

[Portaventura& Frie]

¡Ya basta!

Escucha y aprende. O lee este hilo desde el principio; así lo entenderás.

Sinceramente, no entendemos la hostilidad, especialmente cuando sólo intentamos ofrecer reflexiones educadas y de sentido común.

Nuestro objetivo no es molestar ni herir la sensibilidad de nadie. Todo lo contrario: estamos aquí para debatir, aprender y compartir nuestra perspectiva, como todos los demás. Creemos firmemente que silenciar los diferentes puntos de vista no es la mejor manera de enriquecer la discusión del foro.

Mantengamos el debate educado y abierto: si hay críticas, estaremos encantados de escucharlas, siempre que sean constructivas.

 

[rob@rar]

Sinceramente, no entendemos la hostilidad, especialmente cuando sólo intentamos ofrecer reflexiones educadas y de sentido común.

Nuestro objetivo no es molestar ni herir la sensibilidad de nadie. Todo lo contrario: estamos aquí para debatir, aprender y compartir nuestra perspectiva, como todos los demás. Creemos firmemente que silenciar los diferentes puntos de vista no es la mejor manera de enriquecer la discusión del foro.

Mantengamos el debate educado y abierto: si hay críticas, estaremos encantados de escucharlas, siempre que sean constructivas.

My two criticisms are:

1. You are making a series of comments about the Universal development in Bedford which are entirely ignorant of the facts. Many of us who have participated in this thread for the last two years have followed the matter very closely, and it is frustrating when somebody jumps in and makes a series of nonsense remarks. It would be better if you read this thread from the beginning to see how much detailed progress has been made by Universal, the local councils and the national government. This project has already been announced by the British Prime Minister and the President of UDX. Preparatory groundworks have already started. Universal has already committed billions of dollars to this project. Initial design work has been completed, and the creative team for the new park are already being recruited. This thing is happening, you need to accept that.

2. My second criticism is that it takes a special kind of arrogance from a Port Aventura fan boy to think they know how to run a multi-billion dollar theme park business better than Universal does. There's a long list of reasons that Universal decided it would be better to create their first European park in Bedford rather than try to fix a substandard park in Tarragona. For the foreseeable future Universal is not coming to Spain, you need to accept that. If you really want to discuss why Universal doesn't want to buy Port Aventura you should take those comments to the relevant thread. Continuing to post your Port Aventura comments in this thread shows a significant lack of respect to the participants in this thread.

So I repeat, ¡Ya basta! Please.

 

[Brian G.]

This needs to be taken to the PortAventura Thread, Please!!!

 

[Portaventura& Frie]

Mis dos críticas son:

1. Estás haciendo una serie de comentarios sobre el desarrollo de Universal en Bedford que ignoran por completo los hechos. Muchos de los que hemos participado en este hilo durante los últimos dos años hemos seguido el asunto muy de cerca, y es frustrante cuando alguien interviene y hace comentarios sin sentido. Sería mejor que leyeras este hilo desde el principio para ver el progreso detallado que han logrado Universal, los ayuntamientos y el gobierno nacional. Este proyecto ya ha sido anunciado por el primer ministro británico y el presidente de UDX. Los trabajos preparatorios ya han comenzado. Universal ya ha comprometido miles de millones de dólares en este proyecto. El diseño inicial ya está terminado y el equipo creativo del nuevo parque ya está en proceso de contratación. Esto está sucediendo, tienes que aceptarlo.

2. Mi segunda crítica es que se necesita una arrogancia especial por parte de un fan de Port Aventura para creer que sabe gestionar un negocio multimillonario de parques temáticos mejor que Universal. Hay una larga lista de razones por las que Universal decidió que sería mejor crear su primer parque europeo en Bedford en lugar de intentar arreglar un parque deficiente en Tarragona. En el futuro próximo, Universal no vendrá a España; hay que aceptarlo.

Así que repito, ¡Ya basta! Por favor.

Parece que estás molesto por algo que no ocurrió: no hemos criticado el proyecto Universal para Bedford en ningún momento. Creemos que hay un malentendido.

Lo que siempre hemos mantenido es que ambos proyectos podrían ser compatibles si Universal decide comprar PortAventura. Sinceramente, no entendemos la hostilidad hacia esa posibilidad, ya que ambos proyectos serían complementarios.

Se nota que llevas dos años siguiendo este tema y contribuyendo al foro, mientras que nosotros nos unimos hace apenas unos días. Pero ser nuevos no significa que no estemos informados sobre el proyecto Bedford (puede que no tengamos todos los detalles que tú conoces, pero sin duda estamos al día).

Intentar hacer quedar mal a quienes tienen opiniones diferentes no es muy constructivo. Al fin y al cabo, no somos rivales. A todos nos encantan los parques temáticos. Estamos en el mismo equipo.

 

[rob@rar]

Intentar hacer quedar mal a quienes tienen opiniones diferentes no es muy constructivo. Al fin y al cabo, no somos rivales. A todos nos encantan los parques temáticos. Estamos en el mismo equipo.

I've said my piece. Pointless to continue this discussion further.

 

[Portaventura& Frie]

Ya dije lo que tenía que decir. No tiene sentido seguir con esta discusión.

Es cierto. Gracias.

 

[JT01]

Well that was a painful catching up with this thread

 

[yepthatguy]

Well that was a painful catching up with this thread

I can see why Eldorado got cancelled now.

 

[Dinosaurus]

SDO APPROVED!



Wrong thread, sorry. The excitement got the better of me.

 

[Altonsky]

Pretty seamless all in all. So we can do things

 

[rob@rar]

Pretty seamless all in all. So we can do things

I don’t think there was ever any doubt that this would be approved by way of a Special Development Order. Universal has worked hand-in-hand with local and central government (the current government and the previous government) to develop their proposals, so when it came to the point in the process when the legislative niceties needed to be completed the planning application was already in state where it needed no more than a few tweaks. The reality is that work started on the site months go, and the project has already been announced by the Prime Minister and the CEO of UDX in No.10 itself. There was zero chance that the Planning and Housing Minister was going to reject the planning application after all that work. So a you say, everything progressing seamlessly, largely according to timetable.

 

[xtpower]

I went to bed last night feeling we might get something today and they've only gone and approved it. Great stuff.

It's been almost 2 years to the day since @Alicia dropped that amazing Theme Park Stop video that sent the Theme Park world upside down (especially here in the UK) and now it's finally got full approval. Boy have we been on a journey, we've debated and argued and come up with speculation and potential plans and spent days analysing the smallest of details and it's been great fun doing it with you all.

Now, it begins, and I for one intend to be here every step of the way.

 

[rob@rar]

This is the Statutory Instrument:

The Town and Country Planning (Entertainment Resort Complex, Bedford) Special Development (No. 2) Order 2025.

93 pages. Have fun with it...

 

[xtpower]

This is the Statutory Instrument:

The Town and Country Planning (Entertainment Resort Complex, Bedford) Special Development (No. 2) Order 2025.

93 pages. Have fun with it...

Well that's my afternoon covered.

*edit* Seems the construction village can officially begin 'construction' tomorrow.

 

[Altonsky]

In section 12 of that document where they talk about the grand opening it states they will have capacity for 8.5 million visitors within the first 12 months, this seems to be listed as a condition of opening as well.

So god knows what they’re building that we haven’t seen because Tommy said it looked nowhere near that.

 

[rob@rar]

This is an explanatory note regarding the Statutory Instrument. It's for legislative geeks only:

EXPLANATORY MEMORANDUM TO THE TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING (ENTERTAINMENT RESORT COMPLEX, BEDFORD) SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT (NO. 2) ORDER 2025

It appears that an earlier version of the Statutory Instrument was prepared but was found to be defective due to a number of minor errors and typos, which is why the is Special Development (No.2) Order. The delay in preparing the updated and corrected SI might explain why Mohammad Yasin said this would be finalised at the beginning of the month, but has only just squeezed before the Christmas recess.

 

[rob@rar]

So god knows what they’re building that we haven’t seen because Tommy said it looked nowhere near that.

Although worth pointing out that the SI doesn't specify that those 8.5 million people can't all spend 12 hours in an attraction queue...

 

[xtpower]

I think Universal may have rejigged their plans when they realised Epic had a capacity problem and would want to avoid that issue with UGB. Especially as there's no other Universal Parks to sate the demand over here, so it'll likely be max capacity alot of the time.

 

[Altonsky]

Universal have updated their website.

https://universalukproject.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/December-2025-Local-Letter.pdf

 

[rob@rar]

I think Universal may have rejigged their plans when they realised Epic had a capacity problem

Hope so. I appreciate that the Universal UK artwork when it was first announced was not the detailed and final plans for the park, but my general impression was that it looked a little bit lightweight for opening day. And that was before Epic settled in to its first summer of operation.