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Star Trek dark ride!!! I’m in!
 
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The only thing I've ever heard about the Beijing park is the Jurassic ride. That's the power of a unique, top-tier dark ride. It's immersion, fantasy, story-telling. It works across a broad demographic, from 8 year olds to 80 years olds.

This park definitely needs one, or ideally two, unique "WOW!" dark rides only available there, even if just for the purpose of giving people something to talk about for word of mouth marketing...and for Universal to avoid a perception they are spamming the globe with a minimal-effort clone park model (that's unhelpful for their brand, which is on a rocket trajectory otherwise).
 
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With the Jurassic World Rebirth featurette releasing today, it’s reminded me that the raft sequence which was cut from the original Jurassic Park movie is included.

We’re presuming that the dark ride on the concept art will be a clone of Beijing’s Jurassic World Adventure. An indoor dark water ride using the previously mentioned Mack Rocking Boat in the style of a life raft, getting chased upstream by a giant T-Rex animatronic in the water is on my wish list!
 
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The only thing I've ever heard about the Beijing park is the Jurassic ride. That's the power of a unique, top-tier dark ride. It's immersion, fantasy, story-telling. It works across a broad demographic, from 8 year olds to 80 years olds.

This park definitely needs one, or ideally two, unique "WOW!" dark rides only available there, even if just for the purpose of giving people something to talk about for word of mouth marketing...and for Universal to avoid a perception they are spamming the globe with a minimal-effort clone park model (that's unhelpful for their brand, which is on a rocket trajectory otherwise).
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The only notion that Universal would be phoning it in with this park appears to only be coming from naysayers in this forum, the budget for this project is massive, their expectations are daily attendance comparable to what they want for Epic. Deciding this early to anchor the park with their own IP that grossed £149,000,000 in the UK box office makes perfect sense, especially when that IP has a "WOW!" dark ride, and having a brand new JW Coaster to go with it is smart. It also now means most Americans that do want to experience this only have to travel 4000 miles not 8000 miles.
But they wont be spamming to globe with anything, they will continue to drive forward to be the best in the industry and bring lots of new things to the table, you dont need to drink the koolaid to know that much.

Again, I'd love to hear what people have for ideas for this park than relitigating the same points about things not being to their taste.
 
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The vague land at the top right of the park is purposefully indistinguishable. It’s something that’s not ready to be revealed, I predict it’s a significant land they are working on.

If the rumours are true then LOTR’s, thinking Green Dragon Inn & Hobbinton. Although I think there’s much more interesting worlds to explore in Middle Earth such as Rivendell where you could take a boat ride adventure (similar to Pirates of the Caribbean in Disney Shanghai).

If it’s not LOTR’s then could we be getting a new iteration of Dark Universe? Who knows maybe a dark themed boat ride or a ride through the forest getting chased by the Wolfman. I’m not overly familiar with the Universal monsters but I do recognise them.

Long shot could it be Potter and we just don’t even know yet? If they manage to work it out with WB but I doubt it.

Other than these all I can think of is Wicked but not sure what route they would take with that. There’s a possibility that it’s absolutely none of what I’ve said. It could be far far away from Shrek for all we know ha.
 
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tommyhawkins said:
Again, I'd love to hear what people have for ideas for this park than relitigating the same points about things not being to their taste.
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OK, compared to what has been revealed so far what I think is needed is another fully featured land which isn’t Shrek, but is based on a weighty IP which isn’t ’child forward’ and contains a world class and unique e-ticket attraction plus a minor attraction which isn’t a flat ride designed for kids but something the whole family will enjoy. That e-ticket will probably need to be dark ride, certainly not another coaster. I’d like the stunt show to be ditched, especially if they are looking to build yet another Waterworld. That space could be used for a it theatre, perhaps tied in to the “missing land” rather than dangling there incoherently like the current stadium seems to be. Perhaps an equivalent show to the How To Train Your Dragon, but something which is a part of that missing land’s storyline rather than a freestanding IP, if they feel the need for a large sit-down show which will accommodate a thousand people at a time. And make it indoors so they can control the stage lighting, as well as operational in all weathers.

That would make a great opening day roster alongside what we can guess about from the one bit of artwork we’ve seen from Universal, annd would allay the concerns I have right now. More broadly I’d like to see Universal raise its food and beverage options to a uniformly high and well themed standard. The last time I was in Orlando I thought they were falling behind the best of what Disney does in some of their counter-service and casual dining eateries. I’m assuming that Universal Creative will invest all of the lands with the same level of immersive place-making that we see across IoA and I’m sure across Epic.
 
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tommyhawkins said:
The only notion that Universal would be phoning it in with this park appears to only be coming from naysayers in this forum, the budget for this project is massive, their expectations are daily attendance comparable to what they want for Epic. Deciding this early to anchor the park with their own IP that grossed £149,000,000 in the UK box office makes perfect sense, especially when that IP has a "WOW!" dark ride, and having a brand new JW Coaster to go with it is smart. It also now means most Americans that do want to experience this only have to travel 4000 miles not 8000 miles.
But they wont be spamming to globe with anything, they will continue to drive forward to be the best in the industry and bring lots of new things to the table, you dont need to drink the koolaid to know that much.

Again, I'd love to hear what people have for ideas for this park than relitigating the same points about things not being to their taste.
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For context, if Disney announced a park for São Paulo and it was significantly a replication of Hong Kong Disneyland or Shanghai Disneyland, I'd have the same critique.

The excellent book "Dream Chasing" by former Imagineer Bob Weiss describes his early-career work on a very small and side-lined team charged with designing Tokyo Disneyland -- which re-used so much design-work from Disney's domestic parks. (Mostly they were converting construction drawings to metric.) Meanwhile -- the big (and internally respected) project happening simultaneously at WED was EPCOT, because it was...so new. The decision to exploit existing creative work is one of economy, and both leading parks companies do it. You used the phrase "phoning it in," and I used the phrase "spamming the globe with a minimal-effort clone park model..." These are both judgy ways to describe the dynamic in words, for sure. But the sentiment was exactly what the other Imagineers thought about the Tokyo Disneyland project over 40 years ago.

My point is that the distaste for that approach is not only mine, or new. And I suspect theme park fans will be "litigating" it every time it happens, forever.
 
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I've seen quite a few comments from UK based people saying that because there doesn't look to be any HP in the park, they'll have to still go to Orlando. Mission accomplished for Universal! They've said they want that to be the case.

I do think the "Shrek" land is a placeholder, including the size of the area and the buildings. Just looks to be very vague and unfinished (even though it's concept art). Could be LOTR.

Can't quite get my head around some of the negative comments. The (what appears to be) JW and BTTF areas alone sell it to me. 2 fantastic looking coasters and a huge show building that may have our own version of the fantastic ride in Beijing. Yeah, bring it on I say.
 
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tommyhawkins said:
The only notion that Universal would be phoning it in with this park appears to only be coming from naysayers in this forum, the budget for this project is massive, their expectations are daily attendance comparable to what they want for Epic. Deciding this early to anchor the park with their own IP that grossed £149,000,000 in the UK box office makes perfect sense, especially when that IP has a "WOW!" dark ride, and having a brand new JW Coaster to go with it is smart. It also now means most Americans that do want to experience this only have to travel 4000 miles not 8000 miles.
But they wont be spamming to globe with anything, they will continue to drive forward to be the best in the industry and bring lots of new things to the table, you dont need to drink the koolaid to know that much.

Again, I'd love to hear what people have for ideas for this park than relitigating the same points about things not being to their taste.
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It's not about being a "naysayer", we're all here because we share a love for theme parks & Universal, mostly everyone I've seen post in this thread is excited for this project but it's about adjusting expectations. We've only had one single concept image but from that the park looks significantly smaller and less fleshed out than other Universal developments indicating it may not have as many attractions or be to the same scale as other parks. Again, not criticism, just some observations.

And yes, I know final plans changed from the initial concept art for Epic and Beijing, etc, etc... but they mostly stayed the same in terms of overall size and initial layout of lands and attractions, so I do still believe this park will be smaller than its counterparts.
 
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The park may be a bit smaller, time will tell. But it may be the strategy to protect them from any economic shocks in the near future. But there's plenty of expansion space to expand if/when the time is right. I would rather that approach than Comcast/Universal pulling the plug entirely.
 
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The park may be a bit smaller, time will tell. But it may be the strategy to protect them from any economic shocks in the near future. But there's plenty of expansion space to expand if/when the time is right. I would rather that approach than Comcast/Universal pulling the plug entirely.
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Expansion room is great, but the map honestly looks like one of the video games which is trying to sell you DLC to unlock other stuff, it looks like stuff should already be there, and I hope when they update the plans they hit us with a surprise.
 
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It's not about being a "naysayer", we're all here because we share a love for theme parks & Universal, mostly everyone I've seen post in this thread is excited for this project but it's about adjusting expectations. We've only had one single concept image but from that the park looks significantly smaller and less fleshed out than other Universal developments indicating it may not have as many attractions or be to the same scale as other parks. Again, not criticism, just some observations.

And yes, I know final plans changed from the initial concept art for Epic and Beijing, etc, etc... but they mostly stayed the same in terms of
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The park may be a bit smaller, time will tell. But it may be the strategy to protect them from any economic shocks in the near future. But there's plenty of expansion space to expand if/when the time is right. I would rather that approach than Comcast/Universal pulling the plug entirely.
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overall size and initial layout of lands and attractions, so I do still believe this park will be smaller than its counterparts.
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its not significantly smaller though, its the same size for a park that wants 25K a day, as ive said i believe we'll get more in the planning application, but epic has 5 lands and 5 E-tickets, currently it looks like this park has 4 lands apparently and by my count potentially 5 etickets if you include possible Rivendell Adventure and Paddington dark ride that's 5 e-tickets. If everyone was complaining about the lack of C & D tickets and dining, id get it but it's evident they have intentionally left a lot out of the artwork, probably because its not ready
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I can't help but find it kinda wild that people are expressing disappointment about something that's got the proven footprint it has. Until anything is announced by Universal officially themselves, then I wouldn't be so down on things.

For what it's worth, I think the "Four lands" thing might be a bit of a misnomer. I get the impression this park will be similar to Beijing, where it's a mix of "Studios" areas (not lands) which has a mixture of things such as the Bond Stunt show, and then in addition to that, 4 actual immersive "lands" which are each themed to a specific IP (LOTR, Minions, Paddington, Jurassic).
 
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its not significantly smaller though, its the same size for a park that wants 25K a day, as ive said i believe we'll get more in the planning application, but epic has 5 lands and 5 E-tickets, currently it looks like this park has 4 lands apparently and by my count potentially 5 etickets if you include possible Rivendell Adventure and Paddington dark ride that's 5 e-tickets. If everyone was complaining about the lack of C & D tickets and dining, id get it but it's evident they have intentionally left a lot out of the artwork, probably because its not ready
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Thanks for sharing, it's obvious why the lake area is so large now if they are planning to build a 200 foot Tommy Hawkins sign in it, I bet it'll look awesome lit up at night!

Paddington being a potential E-ticket ride? wish I shared your optimism!
 
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Thanks for sharing, it's obvious why the lake area is so large now if they are planning to build a 200 foot Tommy Hawkins sign in, I bet it'll look awesome lit up at night!
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Look, im pretty fricking serious about Solar and every single one of those letters of will charge four EVs for their trip from London to Bedford and back, if you dont believe me its in the consultation brochure
 
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Look, im pretty fricking serious about Solar and every single one of those letters of will charge four EVs for their trip from London to Bedford and back, if you dont believe me its in the consultation brochure
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I've seen quite a few comments from UK based people saying that because there doesn't look to be any HP in the park, they'll have to still go to Orlando. Mission accomplished for Universal! They've said they want that to be the case.

I do think the "Shrek" land is a placeholder, including the size of the area and the buildings. Just looks to be very vague and unfinished (even though it's concept art). Could be LOTR.

Can't quite get my head around some of the negative comments. The (what appears to be) JW and BTTF areas alone sell it to me. 2 fantastic looking coasters and a huge show building that may have our own version of the fantastic ride in Beijing. Yeah, bring it on I say.
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Orlando is ridiculously expensive, it’s becoming more expensive for Americans to travel and visit domestically never mind international tourists. Our salaries over here are also a lot lower.

Tbh I don’t know if I ever will go, spending thousands and thousands on a trip to Orlando right now is way down on my list of priorities and I can’t see that changing for the foreseeable.

So if I don’t see potter here I doubt I’ll ever see and there’s millions more like me.

Will we ever get to a point where Orlando becomes so expensive for international tourists they want to push this park and DLP more so they sit alongside Orlando and their crown jewel parks instead of slightly under them as teasers?
 
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Digital Dan interviewed and MP and got some fresh information.

I’m copying and pasting this from Bert2TheSpark over on Towers Street. Post 131

Digital Dan has managed to get an interview with a government MP about Universal GB, bonus that the MP is a theme park enthusiast too!!

EDIT - There’s some new information about the park that’s exclusively been revealed:

  • 40% of all profits from the park will be reinvested into new additions
  • New attractions are going to be added every two years
  • UK government is funding all the infrastructure around the area, Comcast are paying for the Resort themselves.

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Sorry to veer off topic, but since I’ve never been to a Universal park, I’m curious about the food options. I'm interested in hearing about the quality and variety of food. Also, if you’ve visited the parks in Japan, Singapore, and Beijing, did you notice if the food was still mostly...
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I have loved my visits to Orlando in the past and I'd love to go back (I'm desperate to see Epic) but I just can't see how I'll afford it any time soon. It is a very expensive holiday from the UK.

LotR wise, I was talking to someone who knows the franchise much better than me and they said in the Hobbit there's a barrel ride the characters take down a river from the realm of the Wood Elves to Laketown. Sounds like a perfect rapids style ride to me. Maybe you can have an indoor Moria coaster as well as an outdoor boat ride?
 
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