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Jurassic World VelociCoaster Construction Thread (Opening June 10)

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Well for those that probably didn't understand, they do now. . . there was a need for clarification.
 
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Moving right along, I wonder why they haven't finish the track at least on the lagoon side. . .
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For construction equipment.....allegedly...speculative...possibly
 
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^ LOL LOL
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jarmor said:
You mean (Hogsmeade) bypass bridge. . .
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Glad you cleared it up
 
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joelbryant11 said:
I'm interested to see how aggressive that last turn into the brake run will be.
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Looking at the last support, it's going to whip around that last turn.
 
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^ LOL LOL
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I mean, you need somewhere to put all your GIFs
 
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A whole lotta JP colors in this JW series.
 
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WillQ92 said:


A whole lotta JP colors in this JW series.
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I just picture everyone sitting around a table and someone says "yeah, but what if the dinosaurs escaped"

and someone yells BRILLIANT
 
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jarmor said:
No. . . Just no. They will NOT launch a coaster faster than it needs to be, on purpose, just to slow it down. Also, you say it's all speculation but it appears everything you have been saying has been presenting as fact vs question/speculation.

"Well they're also trying to minimize the whip over the top hat...they clearly don't want you flying over it"

That is stated as a fact when, in fact, you have shown you really don't know what you are saying.
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Engineer in IoA's executive offices: "Hey, I know that 70 mph is sufficient to clear the top hat. Let's send the next group up at 85 mph and watch their faces!!!"

View attachment 12857 Courtesy The Far Side and Gary Larson.
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No one is saying 15mph extra lol We're talking 2-4mph.

If a coaster needs to go 70 to go over you cant launch it at 70.... What if the wind 160 feet up is 15-20mph? Or what if there is a giant random gust of wind at the top? What if its cold or just stopped raining and the ride is running a bit slower? Or the sensor just gets the weight slightly off.

This is why if a coaster needs to go 70 to go over they launch it at like 74, its easier to slow you down 1-3 mph at the top hat if needed then it is to roll back again. Better for capacity and the launch system.

Also as the ride warms up, you can usually reduce launch speed by a few MPH through out the day to save power.

If universal announces 0-70mph launch... that means it probably only needs to do 65 to clear the top hat, but will normally launch around 68mph im guessing.



This video right here is awesome (this channel is awesome) This guy who worked Top Thrill Dragster and Kindga Ka and just graduated to be an engineer and wants to make coasters explains it best in this video.

 
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JaySalahi said:
No one is saying 15mph extra lol We're talking 2-4mph.

If a coaster needs to go 70 to go over you cant launch it at 70.... What if the wind 160 feet up is 15-20mph? Or what if there is a giant random gust of wind at the top? What if its cold or just stopped raining and the ride is running a bit slower? Or the sensor just gets the weight slightly off.

This is why if a coaster needs to go 70 to go over they launch it at like 74, its easier to slow you down 1-3 mph at the top hat if needed then it is to roll back again. Better for capacity and the launch system.

Also as the ride warms up, you can usually reduce launch speed by a few MPH through out the day to save power.

If universal announces 0-70mph launch... that means it probably only needs to do 65 to clear the top hat, but will normally launch around 68mph im guessing.



This video right here is awesome (this channel is awesome) This guy who worked Top Thrill Dragster and Kindga Ka and just graduated to be an engineer and wants to make coasters explains it best in this video.

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They do this on Top Thrill as well


Allegedly
 
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JaySalahi said:
What if the wind 160 feet up is 15-20mph?
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Then the ride won't run due to high winds.

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Or what if there is a giant random gust of wind at the top?
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Then prepare yourself for a potential rollback.

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What if its cold or just stopped raining and the ride is running a bit slower?
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Coasters are created to run in particular temps. It can be too cold to start particular coasters but once the temp rises, and the coaster has been running, it can operate till a lower than start temp. But we are talking about temps in the 30's so this coaster will not have that issue.

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Or the sensor just gets the weight slightly off.
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Again, prepare for a potential rollback.

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This is why if a coaster needs to go 70 to go over they launch it at like 74.
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Actually no. None of the scenarios you presented gives cause for launching a coaster faster than it needs to be launched. Quite the contrary, the goal is to operate at as less of capacity than needed to conserve energy and wear.

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Also as the ride warms up, you can usually reduce launch speed by a few MPH throughout the day to save power.
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Correct. But it also correlates with other factors like weight of train.

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If universal announces 0-70mph launch... that means it probably only needs to do 65 to clear the top hat, but will normally launch around 68mph im guessing.
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Good guess. It generally means, with all things considered, 70 is the max speed it would need to successfully clear the top.
 
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jarmor said:
Then the ride won't run due to high winds.


Then prepare yourself for a potential rollback.


Coasters are created to run in particular temps. It can be too cold to start particular coasters but once the temp rises, and the coaster has been running, it can operate till a lower than start temp. But we are talking about temps in the 30's so this coaster will not have that issue.


Again, prepare for a potential rollback.


Actually no. None of the scenarios you presented gives cause for launching a coaster faster than it needs to be launched. Quite the contrary, the goal is to operate at as less of capacity than needed to conserve energy and wear.


Correct. But it also correlates with other factors like weight of train.


Good guess. It generally means, with all things considered, 70 is the max speed it would need to successfully clear the top.
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Do you believe Universal wants to eliminate downtime?
 
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shiekra38 said:
Do you believe Universal wants to eliminate downtime?
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No, they totally want as much downtime as they can get out of their investment /s
 
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WillQ92 said:


A whole lotta JP colors in this JW series.
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I thought the same! I remember back when they trademarked Camp Cretaceous and it was speculated that they could rename Camp Jurassic. I guess they still could but seems more likely it was for the series. Big picture I think seeing that this new series is using the old colors and the new JW: Dominion movie logo is JW but with JP colors suggests that it’s gonna ok for the two themes/color schemes to exist in the same park. It would be awesome someday to get the river adventure restored to its glory when it opened. Obviously given the state of things that seems more unlikely than ever but hey I can dream! I just think it would be really cool to have Hollywood be JW and Orlando be JP for the river ride so each park has something unique rather than clone each park. Anyways, looking forward to this coaster and getting some foliage back in JP!
 
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Reddit’s got jokes :lol:
 
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P@n!K_Sw1tC# said:
No, they totally want as much downtime as they can get out of their investment /s
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Well in that case, who cares if it rolls back

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Reddit’s got jokes :lol:
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Haha, I believe the second half of the ride will still haul
 
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^Yeah that’s what those Wal Mart parks like Cedar Point, Hershey Park, Six Flags Great Adventure, and Knotts think too. “Who cares, lolz, we’re just a dumb regional park that’s lucky to be graced with this technology”
 
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^Yeah that’s what those Wal Mart parks like Cedar Point, Hershey Park, Six Flags Great Adventure, and Knotts think too. “Who cares, lolz, we’re just a dumb regional park that’s lucky to be graced with this technology”
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Too many trims
 
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Too many trims
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Seems that trims are to coaster fans what screens are to dark ride fans.
 
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Seems that trims are to coaster fans what screens are to dark ride fans.
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They've never bothered me to be totally honest
 
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