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Hagrid’s Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure Construction Discussion

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And the ride system and control system is no longer supported by the manufacturer last I heard.
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The control system isn't a big deal, Dynamic Attractions could easily drop in a new control system. Wheels and other mechanical parts is a different story. When you have to get parts fabricated it gets expensive.
 
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Why replace MIB with another shooter ride. MIB is in my opinion the best shooter ride in the business as is. Why would you replace a perfect ride with a new one that is basically the same thing with a new IP.

Also FFL is sitting right their next to DA. Why would you not want to use that plot of land to build something like the moving tower concept and let us travel through different spots of MOM. That makes much more sense.

We already have AAL, Horror Make-Up Show, T2-3D replacement next year. These shows are year round and give us a much greater entertainment value than FFL(a venue that’s closed almost half the year)and also provide adequate show numbers for the park.

If Universal replaces MIB with MoM and leaves FFL I believe people will lose there s&$@t, maybe not the entirety of the GP(some though) and AP members would certainly be upset and numbers would decline I garuntee it. With that said I don’t think even Universal would make that big of a bone headed decision, at least I hope not.
 
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MoM will not replace MIB in the sense that it will not physically replace it. It could replace MIB in the sense that it will make MIB expendable
 
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Disneyhead said:
But things we know from the story can explain things we don't know about the coaster. Like why would there be 7 identical Hagrid's motorbikes in a row?
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MoM will not replace MIB in the sense that it will not physically replace it. It could replace MIB in the sense that it will make MIB expendable
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In theory, yes. However, I would say that unless MOM is going to involve "shooting" at a huge cast of AA characters and creatures, then MIB would remain indispensable to the park.
 
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In that case Cat in the Hat isn’t long for the world either
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I really wouldn't hate a drastic refurb of CitH that smooths out the RVs...
 
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Disneyhead said:
But things we know from the story can explain things we don't know about the coaster. Like why would there be 7 identical Hagrid's motorbikes in a row?
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To have seven potter's trying to escape from death eaters?
 
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To have seven potter's trying to escape from death eaters?
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I don't suspect this ride will have Deatheaters. I think Disneyhead is referring more to why Hagrid needs us to there. He's typically good at his job. There has to be a "something goes wrong" reason that requires our help.
 
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I don't suspect this ride will have Deatheaters. I think Disneyhead is referring more to why Hagrid needs us to there. He's typically good at his job. There has to be a "something goes wrong" reason that requires our help.
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Oh, I know that.

But hey; trying to be cheeky can get sometimes some laughs. ;)

I really am curious though to the seating for the side-car part of Sirius Blacks motorcycle. At the very least, this attraction will act similar to Skyrush in accommodating unique seating types.
 
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Is everybody pretty much on board now that this will be a bike coaster?
 
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Is everybody pretty much on board now that this will be a bike coaster?
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I think the trains will look like bikes and side cars, but have more traditional seating. I don’t think it will be a true bike coaster configuration
 
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Why replace MIB with another shooter ride. MIB is in my opinion the best shooter ride in the business as is. Why would you replace a perfect ride with a new one that is basically the same thing with a new IP.

Also FFL is sitting right their next to DA. Why would you not want to use that plot of land to build something like the moving tower concept and let us travel through different spots of MOM. That makes much more sense.

We already have AAL, Horror Make-Up Show, T2-3D replacement next year. These shows are year round and give us a much greater entertainment value than FFL(a venue that’s closed almost half the year)and also provide adequate show numbers for the park.

If Universal replaces MIB with MoM and leaves FFL I believe people will lose there s&$@t, maybe not the entirety of the GP(some though) and AP members would certainly be upset and numbers would decline I garuntee it. With that said I don’t think even Universal would make that big of a bone headed decision, at least I hope not.
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You had 20 years to ride the ride. Some dude with a theme park with a mouse once said his theme park would never be finished, the same goes for Universal. And after 20+ years you just can't complain.
 
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You had 20 years to ride the ride. Some dude with a theme park with a mouse once said his theme park would never be finished, the same goes for Universal. And after 20+ years you just can't complain.
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I can if something like FFL survives while MIB goes away, oh your damn right I can complain and will to the high heavens.

That would be a massive mistake by universal to remove a highly regarded, reviewed, and loved attraction by both the GP and fans to replace with another shooter attraction just with a new ip all the while leaving a show that separates the two spaces and is generally not highly regarded nor cared about by the GP and specifically almost hated by fanboys.

Most people who first visit the park see FFL as, “well maybe we will catch a show if we have done everything else twice and still have time” and the rest don’t even have the option cause the damn thing is closed. Also don’t give an argument that well they need the space for seasonal shows bs cause they only use it for HHN and even then some realignment could free up the stage near HRRR.

I agree with Mr. Disney’s viewpoint that a theme park shall never be finished as they need continuously evolve but pretty sure he would role over in his grave if they closed Its a Small World to replace it with something damn near the same just instead of puppets we get singing animals about it’s a small jungle all the while having fantasyland theater left doing nothing.
 
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Well I hope this MOM dark ride gets approved and constructed. I think I’m the only who doesn’t believe this is going to be a bike coaster.
 
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Where did this talk of FFl surviving and MIB going away come from? It’s a leap from someone saying MOM will possibly be interactive causing MIB to be easily replaced. No one said MOM would take over MIB instead of FFL. Stop crying about something that isn’t happening.
 
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Moose84 said:
I can if something like FFL survives while MIB goes away, oh your damn right I can complain and will to the high heavens.

That would be a massive mistake by universal to remove a highly regarded, reviewed, and loved attraction by both the GP and fans to replace with another shooter attraction just with a new ip all the while leaving a show that separates the two spaces and is generally not highly regarded nor cared about by the GP and specifically almost hated by fanboys.

Most people who first visit the park see FFL as, “well maybe we will catch a show if we have done everything else twice and still have time” and the rest don’t even have the option cause the damn thing is closed. Also don’t give an argument that well they need the space for seasonal shows bs cause they only use it for HHN and even then some realignment could free up the stage near HRRR.

I agree with Mr. Disney’s viewpoint that a theme park shall never be finished as they need continuously evolve but pretty sure he would role over in his grave if they closed Its a Small World to replace it with something damn near the same just instead of puppets we get singing animals about it’s a small jungle all the while having fantasyland theater left doing nothing.
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You might want to stop knocking down straw men here.
 
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Where did this talk of FFl surviving and MIB going away come from? It’s a leap from someone saying MOM will possibly be interactive causing MIB to be easily replaced. No one said MOM would take over MIB instead of FFL. Stop crying about something that isn’t happening.
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My point is why build a shooter at all when you have a perfectly good one right there. Please explain in an actual intelligent argument. Hell explain the logic of “let’s build a shooter so we can shut down a shooter”. I responded to some speculation so either come back with an actual corherent debate and not stop crying cause yeah it’s not happening, oh my bad Mr. Roberts had no idea you enjoyed the forums on IU.
 
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You might want to stop knocking down straw men here.
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You might want to spend less time googling snarky ways to say “I don’t agree with you”, and maybe put some of that time and effort into actually engaging the conversations at hand.
 
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My point is why build a shooter at all when you have a perfectly good one right there. Please explain in an actual intelligent argument. Hell explain the logic of “let’s build a shooter so we can shut down a shooter”. I responded to some speculation so either come back with an actual corherent debate and not stop crying cause yeah it’s not happening, oh my bad Mr. Roberts had no idea you enjoyed the forums on IU.
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Because while MIB is a great ride, an HP wand shooter is a perfect idea for the IP. There is no point in limiting a ride experience just because another ride exists. People can complain if MIB shuts down, but saying keeping FFL over MIB was never said. That’s the issue I am talking about. MOM would still take over FFL, it’s not staying in this scenario. If MOM works best as an interactive wand shooter than it 100% should be that and it shouldn’t be held back because MIB exists. If that causes MIB to be replaced in 5-10 years than so be it. Rides can be and should be replaced.
 
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My point is why build a shooter at all when you have a perfectly good one right there. Please explain in an actual intelligent argument. Hell explain the logic of “let’s build a shooter so we can shut down a shooter”. I responded to some speculation so either come back with an actual corherent debate and not stop crying cause yeah it’s not happening, oh my bad Mr. Roberts had no idea you enjoyed the forums on IU.
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1. The manufacturer no longer supports the ride system.

2. The control system is antiquated.

3. The IP is sliding into obscurity.

Sure they could dump a bunch of money into it to upgrading it, but see #3 above.
 
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