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Disney's Animal Kingdom (General Discussion)

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Imo for me this is the BEST WDW park. I appreciated this park a lot more after I went to the Japan parks last year. It may not have the most attractions, but the ones that are here are amazing and this park easily has the best theming out of all the 4 WDW parks. It's a truly unique and special park. I love it. Magic Kingdom is still my favorite but that's because it's the park I visited the most growing up
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I just worry the unique feeling is going to get washed away with incorporating IP’s into the park. Pandora worked, we’ll see with Tropical America’s. Even then, it just feels like a different park. I’m happy for the DAK lovers though. I’m weird, I adore DHS so what does my opinion mean!
 
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I enjoy what little of DAK there is, I just wish there was more.
 
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I enjoy what little of DAK there is, I just wish there was more.
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Earlier this year I found an old Travelogue DVD from the mid 2000s about Animal Kingdom I had in storage, from right around the time Everest was added. Joe and some others ended this big deep dive into the park bragging about the scope of the place, and how they hid expansion plots everywhere, and how the park 20 years from then would end up being so much larger and grander than the park they were already boasting about.

Well, it's been about 20 years. It was honestly a little bit stark hearing those clips in hindsight. There has been some expansion and improvement, but largely the park is about the same as it was when that special was aired. This park just can't seem to build up a solid lineup of attractions.

Part of that is that most everything that's been added onto Animal Kingdom has been a replacement for something else. At least Dino-Rama and Camp Minnie Mickey were negligible losses compared to what has or will replace them; but replacing stuff like Dinosaur, or even say the Wild Dogs area in Kilimanjaro Safaris like the Lion King rumor mentioned just leaves the park feeling like it's on a treadmill rather than actually expanding and improving on itself. It's such a shame.
 
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but replacing stuff like Dinosaur
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Very debatable that loosing this attraction is a loss.

For most it’s something that never met its fullest potential and was poor excuse of the ride system versus DL Indy.

In my opinion this new ride will be a huge improvement over what’s currently there and will be more successful in the long run.
 
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Very debatable that loosing this attraction is a loss.

For most it’s something that never met its fullest potential and was poor excuse of the ride system versus DL Indy.

In my opinion this new ride will be a huge improvement over what’s currently there and will be more successful in the long run.
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Debatable, but for the amount of rides the park has, I firmly believe we should be adding more than we replace. There's no reason why we couldn't have had another dark ride added somewhere else in the park on top of retaining Dinosaur. I'm really tired of these lateral moves.
 
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Debatable, but for the amount of rides the park has, I firmly believe we should be adding more than we replace. There's no reason why we couldn't have had another dark ride added somewhere else in the park on top of retaining Dinosaur. I'm really tired of these lateral moves.
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That’s fair but I rather them not tamper with AK too much.

I feel like the more you ask to add stuff it wouldn’t make sense and would be shoving IP where it doesn’t belong.

Tropical America’s is a miracle in a lot of ways because we could have gotten something totally opposite of that.
 
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That’s fair but I rather them not tamper with AK too much.

I feel like the more you ask to add stuff it wouldn’t make sense and would be shoving IP where it doesn’t belong.

Tropical America’s is a miracle in a lot of ways because we could have gotten something totally opposite of that.
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I think no one is excited about bad placed non sensical expansions/replacement as that is what Disney is now known for now, but for all the money you have to pay for a WDW vacation we should expect good and sensical additions to AK that would actually fill out the park as intended.
 
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While I agree that Indiana Jones and all of Tropical Americas should be additions to the park, not replacements, Dinosaur always felt "cheap" in comparison to other WDW attractions. I love it, but mainly for its cheesy nature.

Indiana Jones at DL far exceeds the quality of Dinosaur.
 
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Took my first trip back to Animal Kingdom very recently, and after a whole day of exploring there and trying to notice or rediscover details big and small about it, I have many many thoughts about the park that I'm certain I'll be expressing here soon.

For now though, I think I've developed a bit of a theory. I haven't quite thought it fully through, but here goes:



In order to make a ride at Animal Kingdom that hits all of the below qualifications...

- Considered an E-ticket attraction in both scope and guest demand.
- Story-focused
- Visually consistent with the rest of the park (No bare steel coaster track like Busch)
- Showcases the core ecological and educational philosophies at the heart of Animal Kingdom.

Then that ride would need to be about a mythical entity, an extinct creature, or a fictional Disney character.



The only way Dinosaur can get away with using real* animals in the way that it does, is because said animals are already dead, and thus there is no ecological responsibility to portray them in a way that would urge park guests towards preservation of said species. When it comes to dinosaurs (*Especially remarkably fantastical and Hollywood-style versions of dinosaurs), their time has long past.

In contrast, despite the significant similarities it has to Dinosaur, Jaws would not fit within Animal Kingdom. Sharks are still here with us, and Jaws has already done significant damage to our cultural perception of sharks, Great Whites specifically. It would go against the thematic and moral core of DAK to build that ride in that park. They would need to base it on a Megalodon, the Loch Ness Monster, or something similar to get away with an attraction that scary, thrilling, and engaging.

My belief is that in order to remain true to that core ecological and educational focus, you have to treat these animals like real living creatures and not movie monsters. But in doing that, you limit yourself substantially in terms of spectacle.

That is how you end up with attractions like Antartica: Empire of the Penguin or TurtleTrek at Seaworld Orlando. It doesn't escape me that nearly everyone (rightfully) dunks on education-forward dark rides like Empire, while the mythical Journey to Atlantis is typically praised in comparison. It's just far easier to make engaging show scenes based on fantasy creatures, or the characters from Finding Nemo or The Lion King, than it is to showcase the actual day-to-day life of real world animals.

There are other mediums much better suited to making said life engaging to a mass-audience, like documentary film and proper animal exhibits. I do not believe dark rides, 3D shows, log flumes, or roller coasters are among those mediums. And I believe that disconnect is a fundamental flaw of this park. It's remarkably difficult to square that circle.

The only obvious exceptions would be a Safari-type ride like Kilimanjaro or Jungle Cruise. Of note, that in order to make a second Safari attraction appealing within Animal Kingdom itself, they did not theme the safari to Asia, South America, or Australia, but to the fictional planet and wildlife from the movie Avatar.

The only other attraction that I personally believe meets the above criteria? And only barely, but it's Cheetah Hunt from Busch Gardens Tampa. Exposed steel low to the ground and hidden amongst theming and animal exhibits, showcasing actual behaviors like the quick dash and pouncing up and down the tree; it is the closest I can think of to a proper E-Ticket thrill ride with solid and consistent theming that treats animals like animals.
 
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The official line of DAK is it's about how humans and animals interact with nature and each other. An attraction like Jaws the Ride wouldn't fit because it treats the made up story and characters as real, but an attraction that covers Jaws' impact on how humans view sharks would work!
 
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Took my first trip back to Animal Kingdom very recently, and after a whole day of exploring there and trying to notice or rediscover details big and small about it, I have many many thoughts about the park that I'm certain I'll be expressing here soon.

For now though, I think I've developed a bit of a theory. I haven't quite thought it fully through, but here goes:



In order to make a ride at Animal Kingdom that hits all of the below qualifications...

- Considered an E-ticket attraction in both scope and guest demand.
- Story-focused
- Visually consistent with the rest of the park (No bare steel coaster track like Busch)
- Showcases the core ecological and educational philosophies at the heart of Animal Kingdom.

Then that ride would need to be about a mythical entity, an extinct creature, or a fictional Disney character.



The only way Dinosaur can get away with using real* animals in the way that it does, is because said animals are already dead, and thus there is no ecological responsibility to portray them in a way that would urge park guests towards preservation of said species. When it comes to dinosaurs (*Especially remarkably fantastical and Hollywood-style versions of dinosaurs), their time has long past.

In contrast, despite the significant similarities it has to Dinosaur, Jaws would not fit within Animal Kingdom. Sharks are still here with us, and Jaws has already done significant damage to our cultural perception of sharks, Great Whites specifically. It would go against the thematic and moral core of DAK to build that ride in that park. They would need to base it on a Megalodon, the Loch Ness Monster, or something similar to get away with an attraction that scary, thrilling, and engaging.

My belief is that in order to remain true to that core ecological and educational focus, you have to treat these animals like real living creatures and not movie monsters. But in doing that, you limit yourself substantially in terms of spectacle.

That is how you end up with attractions like Antartica: Empire of the Penguin or TurtleTrek at Seaworld Orlando. It doesn't escape me that nearly everyone (rightfully) dunks on education-forward dark rides like Empire, while the mythical Journey to Atlantis is typically praised in comparison. It's just far easier to make engaging show scenes based on fantasy creatures, or the characters from Finding Nemo or The Lion King, than it is to showcase the actual day-to-day life of real world animals.

There are other mediums much better suited to making said life engaging to a mass-audience, like documentary film and proper animal exhibits. I do not believe dark rides, 3D shows, log flumes, or roller coasters are among those mediums. And I believe that disconnect is a fundamental flaw of this park. It's remarkably difficult to square that circle.

The only obvious exceptions would be a Safari-type ride like Kilimanjaro or Jungle Cruise. Of note, that in order to make a second Safari attraction appealing within Animal Kingdom itself, they did not theme the safari to Asia, South America, or Australia, but to the fictional planet and wildlife from the movie Avatar.

The only other attraction that I personally believe meets the above criteria? And only barely, but it's Cheetah Hunt from Busch Gardens Tampa. Exposed steel low to the ground and hidden amongst theming and animal exhibits, showcasing actual behaviors like the quick dash and pouncing up and down the tree; it is the closest I can think of to a proper E-Ticket thrill ride with solid and consistent theming that treats animals like animals.
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If I was forced to rank all Orlando/BG attractions I’ve personally done, and it’s not all of them, Cheetah Hunt is top 5 easy.
 
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DOOMBOT said:
Took my first trip back to Animal Kingdom very recently, and after a whole day of exploring there and trying to notice or rediscover details big and small about it, I have many many thoughts about the park that I'm certain I'll be expressing here soon.

For now though, I think I've developed a bit of a theory. I haven't quite thought it fully through, but here goes:



In order to make a ride at Animal Kingdom that hits all of the below qualifications...

- Considered an E-ticket attraction in both scope and guest demand.
- Story-focused
- Visually consistent with the rest of the park (No bare steel coaster track like Busch)
- Showcases the core ecological and educational philosophies at the heart of Animal Kingdom.

Then that ride would need to be about a mythical entity, an extinct creature, or a fictional Disney character.



The only way Dinosaur can get away with using real* animals in the way that it does, is because said animals are already dead, and thus there is no ecological responsibility to portray them in a way that would urge park guests towards preservation of said species. When it comes to dinosaurs (*Especially remarkably fantastical and Hollywood-style versions of dinosaurs), their time has long past.

In contrast, despite the significant similarities it has to Dinosaur, Jaws would not fit within Animal Kingdom. Sharks are still here with us, and Jaws has already done significant damage to our cultural perception of sharks, Great Whites specifically. It would go against the thematic and moral core of DAK to build that ride in that park. They would need to base it on a Megalodon, the Loch Ness Monster, or something similar to get away with an attraction that scary, thrilling, and engaging.

My belief is that in order to remain true to that core ecological and educational focus, you have to treat these animals like real living creatures and not movie monsters. But in doing that, you limit yourself substantially in terms of spectacle.

That is how you end up with attractions like Antartica: Empire of the Penguin or TurtleTrek at Seaworld Orlando. It doesn't escape me that nearly everyone (rightfully) dunks on education-forward dark rides like Empire, while the mythical Journey to Atlantis is typically praised in comparison. It's just far easier to make engaging show scenes based on fantasy creatures, or the characters from Finding Nemo or The Lion King, than it is to showcase the actual day-to-day life of real world animals.

There are other mediums much better suited to making said life engaging to a mass-audience, like documentary film and proper animal exhibits. I do not believe dark rides, 3D shows, log flumes, or roller coasters are among those mediums. And I believe that disconnect is a fundamental flaw of this park. It's remarkably difficult to square that circle.

The only obvious exceptions would be a Safari-type ride like Kilimanjaro or Jungle Cruise. Of note, that in order to make a second Safari attraction appealing within Animal Kingdom itself, they did not theme the safari to Asia, South America, or Australia, but to the fictional planet and wildlife from the movie Avatar.

The only other attraction that I personally believe meets the above criteria? And only barely, but it's Cheetah Hunt from Busch Gardens Tampa. Exposed steel low to the ground and hidden amongst theming and animal exhibits, showcasing actual behaviors like the quick dash and pouncing up and down the tree; it is the closest I can think of to a proper E-Ticket thrill ride with solid and consistent theming that treats animals like animals.
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Would HTTYD work in AK if it were a Disney property? My only hesitation would be that it might give the idea that you can domesticate wild animals lol.
 
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