Hagrid’s Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure Construction Discussion

[NJBrandon]

shweeeeet! @NJBrandon any chance you have the permit for Volcano bay's rockwork? I'd be interested in comparing the two

how long until @Disneyhead takes a stroll past Nassal's yard????

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I believe @Alicia mentioned there would be a bunch of rockwork on the load/unload building and queue leading up to it as well

Volcano Bay's work from Nassal was $24.2 million.

 

[Joel]

Volcano Bay's work from Nassal was $24.2 million.

Considering the size of the volcano (both in terms of quantity of rockwork, as well as difficulty of labor as a factor of cost), plus all the non-volcano rock work around the water park, I'm pretty excited with the potential here!

 

[Disneyhead]

Yea, I think some will be along the first few scenes and/or near the queue building entrance... But I bet the bulk of it will be for a giant cave that will kind of frame the entire back of the ride area, creating a towering backdrop as seen from Hogsmeade and the ride entrance paths.

EDIT: So, thinking of this three-dimensionally, as seen from Hogsmeade's ride entrance: We'll see trees in foreground, rockwork, trees, big castle-style arches, bridges and other structures, more trees, giant rockwork farther away looming in the distance, surrounded by more trees. It should be quite a sight.

Like Pandora but no floating mountains and instead of the alien forest we get trees and some Pottery looking eye candy.

 

[Mad Dog]

Like Pandora but no floating mountains and instead of the alien forest we get trees and some Pottery looking eye candy.

What!! No blacklights landscaping?:doh:

 

[Ridgepole]

Considering the size of the volcano (both in terms of quantity of rockwork, as well as difficulty of labor as a factor of cost), plus all the non-volcano rock work around the water park, I'm pretty excited with the potential here!

i agree. But most of the volcano is precast fiberglass chunks and not real masonry.

 

[Teebin]

i agree. But most of the volcano is precast fiberglass chunks and not real masonry.

Who told you that?

 

[Parkscope Joe]

Who told you that?

He assumed.

 

[Ridgepole]

I saw it going up. Maybe the chunks were a fiber composite but it wasn't built rock by rock. Like Hardy products but precast and shaped. Understandable if you have ever been involved with masonry.

 

[Parkscope Joe]

I saw it going up. Maybe the chunks were a fiber composite but it wasn't built rock by rock.

It was a rebar mesh that was formed.

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[Teebin]

I saw it going up

So did I and I also saw them tearing out chunks of concrete in the stairwell when a clearance mistake was made. There have been articles written about the special mix of concrete used in sculpting it. Are you sure you weren’t mistaking the fabric backed rebar?

 

[Ridgepole]

examples of real masonry I have posted before here. This is the labor intensive costly type. Just saying.

 

[Yung1522]

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examples of real masonry I have posted before here. This is the labor intensive costly type. Just saying.

I don't think anyone was suggesting that it would be masonry. Here is how they made the volcano with shotcrete
Towering Volcano Created With CEMEX Concrete in Orlando - Towering Volcano Created With CEMEX Concrete in Orlando - CEMEX USA - CEMEX

 

[Teebin]

Thank you Yung... that was the article I was thinking of!

As Alicia said, rockwork doesn’t necessarily mean rocky cliffs. Rockwork might include wooden beams such as can be seen on the post office/owlery building in Hogsmeade.

 

[Ridgepole]

here you go guys. The brown is precast chunks. The grey is most likely shotcrete and hand finished to fill voids. Not rockwork. What he said. I was only referring to the cost statement.

 

[Teebin]

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here you go guys. The brown is precast chunks. The grey is most likely shotcrete and hand finished to fill voids. Not rockwork.

That is fabric backed rebar. We saw the same thing being used on Kong. They used to “chair” the rebar with wire mesh and Kong was the first time that I saw them use the new “chaired” fabric, which looked like a rugged synthetic burlap. You are correct that the rebar panels were pre bent probably from scans of the model. Disneyhead or someone actually took pictures of the hundreds of rebar panels staged at Nassals metalworks facility.

In case anyone was wondering this orange thing is a chair. The steel mesh or fabric is attached to the square part at the bottom.

 

[Ridgepole]

:whiteflag:I'm with it. I worked with an old coot in the 80's that actually built ships for the navy WWII hulls made of shotcrete. Neat stuff but not rockwork either.
Oh, and precast/shaped whatever. Same thing

 

[Disneyhead]

:whiteflag:I'm with it. I worked with an old coot in the 80's that actually built ships for the navy WWII hulls made of shotcrete. Neat stuff but not rockwork either.
Oh, and precast/shaped whatever. Same thing

The rebar is bent by a computer and assembled in 4'X4' squares. They then add a fabric backing. After the squares are applied to the structure, they shotcrete it in sections. Then a rock work artist sculpts the wet shotcrete to create the strata lines based on the type of rock being created. Potter is all granite.

 

[Ridgepole]

And any boob on this site could buy a couple bags of morter mix and build a volcano in the backyard by reading the instructions on the bag.:thumbsup:

 

[Ridgepole]

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here you go guys. The brown is precast chunks. The grey is most likely shotcrete and hand finished to fill voids. Not rockwork. What he said. I was only referring to the cost statement.

The rebar is bent by a computer and assembled in 4'X4' squares. They then add a fabric backing. After the squares are applied to the structure, they shotcrete it in sections. Then a rock work artist sculpts the wet shotcrete to create the strata lines based on the type of rock being created. Potter is all granite.

now that is costly. The granite. I can't recall any real rockwork at VB

 

[Disneyhead]

now that is costly. The granite. I can't recall any real rockwork at VB

No, not real granite. Sculpted and painted (multilayered) to look like granite. Like the big rock the Hogwarts castle is sitting on.

As opposed to sandstone like the Little Mermaid ride.

The rock work at VB is supposed to look like Basalt.