Official Soccer Thread

[Mad Dog]

some people on twitter were saying how Messi did the same fault earlier on a game and didn't get a red or even yellow card, but USA gets a red card.

Besides playing and coaching competitively until I was 64, I was also an official. Though in accordance with the letter of the law, that play would rarely be a red card. Like in American football when an official calls a rarely penalized , as the announcers say, "a ticky tacky call"....that's what that was. In just about every game, you'd be sending numerous players off if the interpretations was so strict. Soccer is a very physical sport, especially at the world class level.

Bull poop call, in my opinion. Warning or yellow at the worst.

 

[Legacy]

Besides playing and coaching competitively until I was 64, I was also an official. Though in accordance with the letter of the law, that play would rarely be a red card. Like in American football when an official calls a rarely penalized , as the announcers say, "a ticky tacky call"....that's what that was. In just about every game, you'd be sending numerous players off if the interpretations was so strict. Soccer is a very physical sport, especially at the world class level.

Bull poop call, in my opinion. Warning or yellow at the worst.

The call is a good example of the bad side of VAR. In real-time, it’s nothing. At most angles, it’s nothing. At THAT angle, in slow-motion, it’s an ankle-breaker that “needed to be addressed.”

I always found Law 12 way too subjective when it came to “serious fouls.”

 

[Jake S]

The call is a good example of the bad side of VAR. In real-time, it’s nothing. At most angles, it’s nothing. At THAT angle, in slow-motion, it’s an ankle-breaker that “needed to be addressed.”

I always found Law 12 way too subjective when it came to “serious fouls.”

Exactly. We can’t be adjudicating these calls on freeze frames, it gives a totally warped perspective.

 

[Mad Dog]

Exactly. We can’t be adjudicating these calls on freeze frames, it gives a totally warped perspective.

If they'd freeze frame every close physical play during an entire high level match, teams would be playing with 4 or 5 players on the field after over zealous red cards .Guaranteed.

 

[Legacy]

If they'd freeze frame every close physical play during an entire high level match, teams would be playing with 4 or 5 players on the field after over zealous red cards .Guaranteed.

I wouldn’t hate the chaos of that.

 

[Lucky Planet]

The laws of the game are always open to interpretation. Red cards can be given for “serious fouls,” (regardless of intent). The quirk is that seriousness is subjective, and often tied to the result of the foul rather than the foul itself.

Balogun’s red is inconsistent but, by the letter of the law, correct. (Messi is also notoriously protected by refs—the conspiracy is more about Messi than the U.S.)

EDIT - Found this, because it emphasizes the “result” of the foul and its severity. Messi rakes the calf. It’s a foul, that hurts like hell, but doesn’t “look” as bad as Balogun’s foul.

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Besides playing and coaching competitively until I was 64, I was also an official. Though in accordance with the letter of the law, that play would rarely be a red card. Like in American football when an official calls a rarely penalized , as the announcers say, "a ticky tacky call"....that's what that was. In just about every game, you'd be sending numerous players off if the interpretations was so strict. Soccer is a very physical sport, especially at the world class level.

Bull poop call, in my opinion. Warning or yellow at the worst.

right now right this night the VAR controversy over the croatia offside goal because if you look at the video in slow motion the ball comes like 1 inch close to the player but doesn't touch him.
then the ball bounces of the head of the Portuguese player.
people in the audience were throwing things at the field they were so mad.

I keep looking at the vid and the ball doesn't really touch the player that was jumping.

VAR says that the Croatian player touched the ball but the ball never changes course or anything.