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NBCUniversal & Comcast Split into 2 Companies

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I just hope that Disney buys them so that I can finally quit having to explain to people that I am going to Universal and not Disney.
 
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I’ve seen some jokes(?) here and there that somebody like the Ellisons might buy NBCUniversal in the future because of this.
 
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Having some fun going through the last time this happened.

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Thread 'Comcast Buys 51% Stake in NBC-Universal'

Oct 1, 2009
Some rumors from last night...

From the LATimes

Comcast in deal talks with NBC Universal

Cable giant Comcast Corp. is kicking the tires of NBC Universal, according to people familiar with the situation.

Comcast, the nation's largest cable operator with almost 25 million subscribers, has been looking to increase its content holdings for several years. In NBC Universal it would get its hands on not only a big broadcast network and movie studio, but also several powerful cable channels, including USA, Syfy, CNBC, MSNBC and Bravo.

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Okay. Its official. We're screwed. :lol:
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So maybe we'll be ok...
 
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Having some fun going through the last time this happened.

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Thread 'Comcast Buys 51% Stake in NBC-Universal'

Oct 1, 2009
Some rumors from last night...

From the LATimes

Comcast in deal talks with NBC Universal

Cable giant Comcast Corp. is kicking the tires of NBC Universal, according to people familiar with the situation.

Comcast, the nation's largest cable operator with almost 25 million subscribers, has been looking to increase its content holdings for several years. In NBC Universal it would get its hands on not only a big broadcast network and movie studio, but also several powerful cable channels, including USA, Syfy, CNBC, MSNBC and Bravo.

NBC parent General Electric has often denied...
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So maybe we'll be ok...
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The economy is inarguably better but the media landscape is arguably much worse than it was in 2009, just in terms of sustainability.

I'd honestly rather not joke about the Ellisons or some other capricious billionaire *sshat taking over NBCU because it's frankly a very real possibility. The absolute bear case for media is that it just becomes what newspapers were in 2015, trophy acquisitions by morons with too much money. You could absolutely see some tech idiot acquiring NBCU for $30b with a plan to "revolutionize media with AI" or whatever and then dumping it five years later when his plan fails, he gets bored and he's fired everyone that actually knew the business. Not saying it's guaranteed but it's a disturbingly real possibility.
 
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One telling aspect. Brian Roberts will retain a significant role. That say's a lot about what's really happening behind the scenes. This plan has been in the works for a very long time. The push for theme parks' prominent role for corporate revenue/profit is part of the long term plan/goal. I think, from what I've been following on financial sites for the last few years, that @Brian G. has good insight into what is happening....And forget 2009/2010. Everything is different now. Entirely different circumstances.
 
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So, is this going to make Universal Studios Hollywood worse in the long term? Are they going to start doing stuff like demolishing Courthouse Square or getting rid of Express after 3 for the Platinum pass or getting rid of/cutting down on walk-around characters?

I know this is going to affect everything, but that’s my immediate concern tbh
 
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The economy is inarguably better but the media landscape is arguably much worse than it was in 2009, just in terms of sustainability.

I'd honestly rather not joke about the Ellisons or some other capricious billionaire *sshat taking over NBCU because it's frankly a very real possibility. The absolute bear case for media is that it just becomes what newspapers were in 2015, trophy acquisitions by morons with too much money. You could absolutely see some tech idiot acquiring NBCU for $30b with a plan to "revolutionize media with AI" or whatever and then dumping it five years later when his plan fails, he gets bored and he's fired everyone that actually knew the business.
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The economy is probably the same, if not worse, than 09 due to the consolidation of wealth and shrinking of the middle class. If you factor out AI spend the economy is likely in recession.


bdubsCEO said:
So, is this going to make Universal Studios Hollywood worse in the long term? Are they going to start doing stuff like demolishing Courthouse Square or getting rid of Express after 3 for the Platinum pass or getting rid of/cutting down on walk-around characters?

I know this is going to affect everything, but that’s my immediate concern tbh
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Wayyyyyy too early to tell in any meaningful way what the changes are likely to be, if anything. This spin off is likely due to Comcast being unwilling or unable to integrate NBCU entirely into their structure (which is fair, they’re two entirely different businesses). The decisions around Peacock, the parks, etc, are not the ones that someone with a cohesive vision in entertainment would make if they were allowed the freedom to make all decisions.

My initial instinct is that it’ll be *different*, but largely the same quality. Monetizing the parks will follow Disney’s lead more than anything, which is what they were already doing. The heritage parks and EU are ones I would not worry about at all, I’d be more concerned about satellite sites like the kids park and HHU but that’s again, a longer term view. Nothing will change for at least a few years while they finish the spinoff.

Fwiw this is a project that I will probably sink a few grand into stocks for.
 
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There is a lot of trees but no one is seeing the forest. This isn't remotely about M&A. This is priming the NBCUniversal for international expansion while increasing focus for Comcast. It is likely that NBCUniversal may also see weakness in the US market in the future and this is a great way to remedy this. The new company is not just NBCUniversal its NBCUniversal and Sky. I was curious why Sky wanted to badly buy ITV distribution networks and not the IPs/production they hold and why Sky was willing to let go of one of their lucrative production studios but now this makes more sense.

Over the past two months NBCUniversal has been making changes.
www.hollywoodreporter.com

UCP, Universal International Studios Combining Under Beatrice Springborn

The new entity will be called Universal Global Television.
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com
www.theguardian.com

Sky makes £2bn spending pledge as it prepares takeover of ITV broadcasting arm

Deal could be announced in July and vow will safeguard future of shows such as Coronation Street and Love Island
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
deadline.com

Paramount’s Warner Takeover To Breach Comcast SkyShowtime Venture

Paramount’s $110 billion acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery is expected to create complications for its SkyShowtime partnership with Comcast.
deadline.com deadline.com

Since Paramount will have HBO Max in Europe, and likely will have to divest for antitrust issues, NBCUniversal will now have to compete for ad money and value. How does comcast do that without messing up the books too much with funding on one division. A spin off.
 
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guess The Simpsons Ride hasn't aged after all.
 
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I’ve seen some jokes(?) here and there that somebody like the Ellisons might buy NBCUniversal in the future because of this.
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how? They might not even succeed in their current acquisition!
 
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how? They might even succeed in their current acquisition!
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doesn’t have to be the Ellison’s themselves, just somebody like them.
 
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This has never not been the case lol
 
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If NBCUniversal is a merger or acquisition target, it wouldn't be the Ellisons or Disney that could take it. From CNBC:
For one, housing broadcast network NBC creates various obstacles. The company wouldn’t be able to merge with a company that has another national network, effectively taking Disney, the owner of ABC, and CBS owner Paramount Skydance off the table.

Even eliminating the broadcasters from the equation, a deal with Paramount Skydance — which has been on something of a shopping spree under new CEO David Ellison — would be a stretch following the completion of its deal with WBD.

Fox, the remaining major player in linear TV, has stayed away from traditional media after hiving off its entertainment assets years ago and likely doesn’t have the appetite for another deal after its Roku agreement.

With the WBD sale process, Netflix showed it was open to doing deals — for the right assets.

But Netflix’s interest in WBD was in its film studio and streaming assets, casting aside WBD’s linear networks. Even with major sports properties like the NFL’s Sunday Ticket, the NBA and top film content, it’s hard to imagine Netflix would make such a shift and get into linear TV via a hypothetical deal with NBCUniversal.

That leaves little else on the table when it comes to media deals, with the largest players all pretty much spoken for. Comcast didn’t specify Monday what it expects either company to be valued at post-spin, but between the Universal theme parks business, a substantial, albeit small, streamer and a respected content library, NBCUniversal would likely be too large for a smaller player to swallow.
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Grabnar said:
The economy is probably the same, if not worse, than 09 due to the consolidation of wealth and shrinking of the middle class. If you factor out AI spend the economy is likely in recession.



Wayyyyyy too early to tell in any meaningful way what the changes are likely to be, if anything. This spin off is likely due to Comcast being unwilling or unable to integrate NBCU entirely into their structure (which is fair, they’re two entirely different businesses). The decisions around Peacock, the parks, etc, are not the ones that someone with a cohesive vision in entertainment would make if they were allowed the freedom to make all decisions.

My initial instinct is that it’ll be *different*, but largely the same quality. Monetizing the parks will follow Disney’s lead more than anything, which is what they were already doing. The heritage parks and EU are ones I would not worry about at all, I’d be more concerned about satellite sites like the kids park and HHU but that’s again, a longer term view. Nothing will change for at least a few years while they finish the spinoff.

Fwiw this is a project that I will probably sink a few grand into stocks for.
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Hence my "believe it when I see it" mindset on projects...<censored> the 2020s in so many ways.
 
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Yeah I gotta admit sometimes (but in the 2020s especially) I feel like a chump for trying to live decently and do right by others and work hard at my job when it seems like corruption, sycophancy and hackery will get you anything you could ever want in life lol.
 
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doesn’t have to be the Ellison’s themselves, just somebody like them.
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Sorry about the typo.

I meant the Ellison's can't do this because they might NOT get WB in the end.
 
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Throw FCC rules and regulations out the window. We know who is running the show these days. Hopefully it's Netflix (if anyone) that ends up with NBCUniversal.
 
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