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Universal's Epic Universe General News & Discussion

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  • Yesterday at 4:16 PM
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Another Sunday with really reasonable lines, and it's not even the evening yet. Donkey Kong Mine Kart is the only long lines, and
its been down a good part of the day. Even Ministry has been decent, as Ministry goes (35 minutes). Most everything is under 35 minutes standby posted time.
 
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Jake S said:
My understanding is Vegas is also dealing with a big slowdown in domestic tourism, especially from Southern California. So there are multiple things at play here.
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Vegas priced out both local and international travelers when it was no longer a cheap weekend destination. Food and resort prices have skyrocketed over the last few years
 
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Vegas priced out both local and international travelers when it was no longer a cheap weekend destination. Food and resort prices have skyrocketed over the last few years
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Full size alcohol drinks $40...Small size $20........Used to be free while you were gambling 30 years ago....
 
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ssirin88 said:
Vegas priced out both local and international travelers when it was no longer a cheap weekend destination. Food and resort prices have skyrocketed over the last few years
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This is part of orlando's problem as well. Everything is too expensive. The resort hotel prices are mind boggling. Add in that a lot of people are just broke. Hard to justify an annual Florida trip when a trip to the grocery story can wipe out most of a paycheck.
 
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We often talk about the heat issues in Epic this summer, especially with more outdoor attractions than indoor attractions, and all that hot
concrete in Celestial. Robert Niles has an interesting article about the summer heat problem in the Orlando area theme parks, titled "Is Florida
too hot to visit in the summer". Highlights of the article in which he talks about a short study done by a Ohio meteorologist on the Orlando summer heat....according to the meteorologist study and discussed by Niles, "average (summer) high temperatures have not changed much over the past decades. At most, it's one degree hotter than it was in the past"....."What has changed significantly are dew point levels i.e. humidity"....."The average high heat index has risen substantially"....."This is a design challenge for Disney and Universal. When humidity is creating not just discomfort but actual danger for guests, cheap methods for providing heat relief, such as shade and misters, won't get the job done alone"....."That means putting more attractions in climate controlled environments".
So, according to Niles' thoughts on his Theme Park Insider site, it appears the easy fix of some shade added and misters isn't going to fix the Epic summer heat index problem. They probably need to add more indoor ac attractions and areas to the park. And no sense in building any more outdoor attractions. They already are overweighted with outdoor rides. That Florida heat index rise is a killer.
 
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Mad Dog said:
We often talk about the heat issues in Epic this summer, especially with more outdoor attractions than indoor attractions, and all that hot
concrete in Celestial. Robert Niles has an interesting article about the summer heat problem in the Orlando area theme parks, titled "Is Florida
too hot to visit in the summer". Highlights of the article in which he talks about a short study done by a Ohio meteorologist on the Orlando summer heat....according to the meteorologist study and discussed by Niles, "average (summer) high temperatures have not changed much over the past decades. At most, it's one degree hotter than it was in the past"....."What has changed significantly are dew point levels i.e. humidity"....."The average high heat index has risen substantially"....."This is a design challenge for Disney and Universal. When humidity is creating not just discomfort but actual danger for guests, cheap methods for providing heat relief, such as shade and misters, won't get the job done alone"....."That means putting more attractions in climate controlled environments".
So, according to Niles' thoughts on his Theme Park Insider site, it appears the easy fix of some shade added and misters isn't going to fix the Epic summer heat index problem. They probably need to add more indoor ac attractions and areas to the park. And no sense in building any more outdoor attractions. They already are overweighted with outdoor rides. That Florida heat index rise is a killer.
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That's why I've been adamant about indoor experiences.

Ignore the increasing heat index, people realize it's not worth the hassle to visit during thunderstorm season either when there's a chance of it raining during your very expensive vacation.
 
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there is a grim irony that the solution to extreme weather in large part caused by climate change is to build more infrastructure that will exacerbate the effect of climate change. very cool, very fun.
 
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Covered outdoor queues helps. I am trying to think which queues in Epic aren't. I know a portion of Monsters isn't.

Hagrids is mostly uncovered except for the last indoor portion.

Thankfully Potter area has the buildings tall enough to provide a lot of shade and wind tunneling. Berk and Nintendo are probably the worst when it comes to shade (not counting Gardens)
 
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Loki said:
Covered outdoor queues helps. I am trying to think which queues in Epic aren't. I know a portion of Monsters isn't.
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Hiccup’s seems like it would be absolutely awful when the line is long as there isn’t any shade until close to the end of the outdoor section. Luckily when I went during previews the line was either short or I rope dropped it for that very reason.
 
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